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Ryzen+ – STUPID?!?! or AMAZING?!?!

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AMD’s Ryzen+ is rumored to drop imminently with some clock speed advantages & not much else. There’s a few reasons why I don’t like this move, for many of the same reasons why I hated Coffee Lake’s launch.

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38 Comments

  1. Ya boi charles

    January 7, 2018 at 6:21 pm

    i guess you could say ryzen was PHENOMenal

  2. Gortok1

    January 7, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    AMD can't release fast enough for me…since I've been waiting for super-cheap USED ryzen…(and lower ddr4 prices) and first gen motherboards will certainly come down in price.
    Til then, I can keep cranking on my 8320E, and rely on freesync to keep things smooth.

  3. nour halawani

    January 7, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    please use a wind screen for your mic when you record outdoors , use those fluffy ones for best results, Rycote makes good but not so cheap ones that can last long.

  4. Osman Alaçam

    January 7, 2018 at 10:56 pm

    i like to watch your videos but you are talking to fast like you are running and talking same time. try to talk slower thanks for video

  5. TopHatProductions115

    January 7, 2018 at 11:30 pm

    Here before 700 likes and 10K views. Who's with me?

  6. Marcus C

    January 8, 2018 at 12:09 am

    He's got a point. I have a Ryzen 7 1700 and it felt like yesterday when I started using it, and in 2 months there will be a 2700 to replace it. Darn it!
    But I sort of like the Tick-tock approach AMD is taking. I really think consumers will feel the need for higher clock speeds on Ryzen.

  7. Brian Vickery

    January 8, 2018 at 1:50 am

    I hear it's not only clock increases but also ability to utilize faster DDR4, which means improved performance. And by clock speed increases of 5ghz+, but hearing something as 4ghz+ or so.

  8. Angel Manuel Perez

    January 8, 2018 at 3:18 am

    Ryzen+ means current Ryzen CPU's will drop even more in price! 1700 for under 250? Yes, please.

  9. yurimodin

    January 8, 2018 at 6:00 am

    "too soon" lol……this is what it was like back in the late 90's early 2K's when AMD & Intel were at each other's throats trying to compete with each other 🙂

  10. WakeUpdead

    January 8, 2018 at 6:13 am

    Freezing in the States for 7+ days, like Zero degrees and your walking around in a tropical garden with palms trees and probably 85-90f temps! Jerk. Waiting for Ryzen3 or ++ or 2, whatever. Looks like paradise man, enjoy, while we Freeze, Jerk!

  11. Werner Coetzer

    January 8, 2018 at 8:49 am

    Brave man walking in a park with a camera 😉

  12. Paul Hamilton

    January 8, 2018 at 11:28 am

    Was Coffee lake rushed? Absolutely. But Intel was also just coasting on its previous products. Intel probably could have released the 6 core/12 thread mainstream part 2 years ago if they were pushing as hard as they could. Not giving consumers the best they could.

    AMD needed to release Ryzen, they needed the money, they needed the marketshare, They were in the negatives of profitability before Ryzen. I also feel it was AMD's 'best' at the time, and it was a very good product. With zen+ it is on a 12nm node which wasn't available with the original zen. AMD is once again giving us their best with a new product on a new node. They need to release it to take more marketshare and keep their return to profitability.

  13. gio calle

    January 8, 2018 at 11:29 am

    thumb up for the T-shirt.

  14. Jeremy Martens

    January 8, 2018 at 1:13 pm

    he is like 20 minutes outside and gets sunburn. just joke m8, love ur vids
    kepp on good work

  15. Kris Sebesta

    January 8, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    Outside is great except next time please do it where the ground is level AND there are less trees to bump into (and the camera will have an easier time maintaining focus). Otherwise great discussion and food for thought!!! BTW, what is the defect with the Ryzen chips you mentioned but didn't actually give the name of it? Thinking of getting a Ryzen chip but want to know what the defects are for their design. Cheers!

  16. Buffycs

    January 8, 2018 at 2:08 pm

    I keep seeing Paul Walker when I see this guy anyone else?

  17. Tony C

    January 8, 2018 at 2:28 pm

    How did he get into the primal 4 life like game mode ?

  18. spoonikle

    January 8, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    Nothing wrong with a minor update to zen in a handful of months, fix some bugs and twist the knife in.
    Also – with competition like Intel, you have to refresh ASAP.

    AMD always pushed out a chipset update while keeping the same socket, forcing a bios update.

  19. Dade Murphy

    January 8, 2018 at 3:30 pm

    You won't have to worry about Intel being competitive anymore. I say this as a systems architect and pen-tester. Intel knew about their processor vulnerabilities 6 years ago and continued to release flawed server chips, furthermore 1 of these vulnerabilities cannot be fixed. This means that Intel knowingly made 95% of ALL servers insecure. The first thing that will happen is MAJOR lawsuits that are likely to bankrupt the company. The second thing that will happen is that pretty much all new server purchases in the future will go to AMD. Kiss Intel goodbye… it likely won't be around for more than 2 more years. (Sure they might spin off their Desktop division but they will not have any working capital for R&D so they're still royally fucked).

  20. AtomicWaveBlast

    January 8, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    Watching while it’s below 10° F
    And he’s chillin in shorts and a short sleeve shirt in South Africa

  21. Steven Falcon

    January 8, 2018 at 4:59 pm

    Looking forward to the $2,000 gaming rig build! I appreciate the insight and helpful videos

  22. Er1ck

    January 8, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    In my point of view: It seems that Ryzen is the "beta" testing of the arquitechture, Ryzen+ will be like the "full" version of ryzen and Ryzen 2 will be Ryzen 2.0 (More cores, higher clock…)

  23. Wesley Mooney

    January 8, 2018 at 7:13 pm

    Not to put you down but I found the scenery palm trees grass etc etc far more entertaining ! I am going to now go buy me some palm trees and plant them on my property

  24. Stu Bur

    January 8, 2018 at 7:33 pm

    They released Ryzen quite a long time ago now. Bashing on AMD for releasing an updated line about a year later because it is too soon or not enough of a leap is just petty. Better stuff for about the same prices is a good thing.

  25. Quasi84

    January 8, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    The AMD Infinity Fabric and 14 nm node has been what has been holding back the Ryzen. Now when they will offer even higher speeds, the multi-threading will become more effecient and the 12 nm production will make it more power effecient in a way that it will allow slightly higher clocks which will make it even more competitive. Then the added benefit of a tweak here and there that makes it a more refined product is welcome. We really need this competition!

    The Meltdown fiasco is a nice welcome now when AMD EPYC is on the roadmap for some VPS providers and cloud service providers. It will accelerate the adoption of the EPYC, just like when Opteron showed the world that server hardware doesn't have to cost a fortune. EPYC won't be cheap but it will beat Xeon in several areas since data centers all over the world are stacking multi-CPU systems in racks just beyond comprehension and per thread performance isn't the #1 goal anymore, CPUs are fast enough. Not only is the slow page table isolation not necessary for the EPYC, but EPYC also offers significantly higher core density and faster inter-processor communcation, making a Xeon purchase a highly questionable choice. So all those big companies that compete head on in the VPS market will buy a ton of EPYC since I don't think they will be buying Xeon as if the Meltdown fiasco didn't happen. The companies that run a lot of services in parallel are the biggest losers here and EPYC does look very appealing.

  26. Luredreier

    January 8, 2018 at 11:11 pm

    I liked this video for the overview talk, you don't have to walk all the time even though a little of it is kind of neat in a way.
    But please keep most videos where there's more details indoor and standing still as the walking can get a tiny bit distracting at times.
    There's probably some balance to be struck here.
    I'm sure you can experiment till you'll find something that works for you. =)
    At any rate this was a nice change. =)

  27. Pillokun

    January 8, 2018 at 11:46 pm

    Tech has slowed down too much, They should release new gen of hardware pretty much every year like it basically was back in the good old days.

  28. Sir Sharpe

    January 9, 2018 at 1:16 am

    They are both companies trying to make money, shade is to be expected. Nice to see you are still "hanging."

  29. Chris Almere

    January 9, 2018 at 1:36 am

    The refresh is a response to the 8th gen, Its just awesome to see that its going blow for blow once again.
    And i realy doubt that its just a die shrink, im guessing that there will be minimal IPC gain, but im willing to bet that overclocking will be improved greatly since it fell realy short on the gen1 for reasons we just cant explain. Im pretty sure they devoted a large chunk of their resources on fixing that.

    I think the die shrink is becouse they shit-canned the 14nm prosses entirely at global foundries and now run on 12nm with 7nm following hot behind it. So why not crank out a few "new" cores while you at it? Worst case scenario your improvements dont do much, but you can still sell it as "A step forward in effeciency". Best case ; "A fine right hook to a off-ballance opponent".

    if you bought gen1, sure it stings a little, but thats the tech world for ya, The moment you set your newly aquired monster gaming rig on your desk a new one, a better one will be released. This is how its always been.
    We all just gotten used to intel dictating the pace of deciding when its time to get someone better.

    But most of all, what you seem to have forgotten to mention is this, the release of a new series pushes the price of the previous cores down hard. Competition is at an all time high, and we ALL benefit from it!

  30. Christopher Hereau

    January 9, 2018 at 2:21 am

    Please do more videos where you backward navigate obstacles. Also, South Africa looks amazing.

  31. random gamer

    January 9, 2018 at 2:28 am

    that fake slide was looking interesting.
    in reality it is boring.

  32. el vie

    January 9, 2018 at 2:45 am

    Pretty happy with my 1700x. Earning me a couple of $ everyday apart from daily tasks.

  33. 50PullUps

    January 9, 2018 at 3:42 am

    Loved the walktalk format. Wish i thought of it.

  34. Max Chiasson

    January 9, 2018 at 4:37 am

    why do you always look like your crying

  35. Aaron

    January 9, 2018 at 5:01 am

    Got my 1600x new for $170 so I’m not complaining

  36. mustardymayo

    January 9, 2018 at 6:21 am

    Honestly, I pretty steamed about Intel releasing Coffee Lake, especially when I just upgraded my workstation. Next computer will definitely be AMD, most likely Threadripper.

  37. Ammar Khder

    January 9, 2018 at 7:08 am

    Can you do a video to teach noob miners how to convert there coins in to mony
    Its realy hard
    Please help..

  38. Singletrack Dan

    January 9, 2018 at 7:09 am

    Make the camera man walk backwards, not you.

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